The server knows what HTML it sent you and it can then compare that to the current HTML you are viewing. It would be similar to techniques used to “unblock” ad blocking scripts.

The server knows what HTML it sent you and it can then compare that to the current HTML you are viewing. It would be similar to techniques used to “unblock” ad blocking scripts.

can be a bit flakey and another overhead to a firefox install that is terminally obese with all the add-ons i run.

but frequent updates to the script mean it improves almost daily so i persist. mind you it drives the wife mad as no website does what she expects.

i think the point is this is part of the bigger picture – its not just the UI we can control but where the data comes from, hows its fiddled with (Yahoo Pipes, Dapper etc) en route, who helps filter it, on which format(s) we consume it and when and where this happens.

at the moment you still need to knuckle down and get your hands a little dirty in some code and a lot of sign ups to services to handle individual roles in the process. thats too much of a barrier for the middle majority as it stands right now.

but the general public are getting slowly but surely more accepting and more able at the same time as more people are making efforts to link things automagically for them.

Live (especially Mesh), Google ecosystem, Facebooks expanding features, Flickr, Zoho for business etc increasingly bring functionality that has been available for years – photo sharing via FTP, remote desktop and remote storage/apps. This is not new – mainframes used to run sessions to remote terminals when Bill Gates was in school. The difference is that these are close to plug and play for the public.

These are not things for uber geeks any more. my auntie is on facebook, my dad flickr and so on

the acceptable version of technology for the masses – but based on the basic tools which have been the world of network and IT pros for years – is now a quick click and an install to transform the experience.

we shouldn’t just be in awe of the power this brings us or what will change in the world when the power of little tricks like greasemonkey, no script and the sheer utility of Remember the Milk or otherinbox is made palatable to the general public.

no that in itself is daunting and terrifying.

but i cant wait to see the next generation do something with the mature version of the tech having grown up with it being nothing to be afraid of…

can be a bit flakey and another overhead to a firefox install that is terminally obese with all the add-ons i run.

but frequent updates to the script mean it improves almost daily so i persist. mind you it drives the wife mad as no website does what she expects.

i think the point is this is part of the bigger picture – its not just the UI we can control but where the data comes from, hows its fiddled with (Yahoo Pipes, Dapper etc) en route, who helps filter it, on which format(s) we consume it and when and where this happens.

at the moment you still need to knuckle down and get your hands a little dirty in some code and a lot of sign ups to services to handle individual roles in the process. thats too much of a barrier for the middle majority as it stands right now.

but the general public are getting slowly but surely more accepting and more able at the same time as more people are making efforts to link things automagically for them.

Live (especially Mesh), Google ecosystem, Facebooks expanding features, Flickr, Zoho for business etc increasingly bring functionality that has been available for years – photo sharing via FTP, remote desktop and remote storage/apps. This is not new – mainframes used to run sessions to remote terminals when Bill Gates was in school. The difference is that these are close to plug and play for the public.

These are not things for uber geeks any more. my auntie is on facebook, my dad flickr and so on

the acceptable version of technology for the masses – but based on the basic tools which have been the world of network and IT pros for years – is now a quick click and an install to transform the experience.

we shouldn’t just be in awe of the power this brings us or what will change in the world when the power of little tricks like greasemonkey, no script and the sheer utility of Remember the Milk or otherinbox is made palatable to the general public.

no that in itself is daunting and terrifying.

but i cant wait to see the next generation do something with the mature version of the tech having grown up with it being nothing to be afraid of…

As for Firefox, I don’t think I can used any other browser now, with its opensource add-ons.

However, as you say a lot of people still use IE and i came unstuck, tagging up an article in Firefox, and missing out some BRs, which meant it looked fine for FF but mad in IE.

That was annoying – everyone should change to FF to make my life easier. Or something like that

As for Firefox, I don’t think I can used any other browser now, with its opensource add-ons.

However, as you say a lot of people still use IE and i came unstuck, tagging up an article in Firefox, and missing out some BRs, which meant it looked fine for FF but mad in IE.

That was annoying – everyone should change to FF to make my life easier. Or something like that